so, here's the issue... >> chris: aren't you saying the same thing mr. pratt is -- mr. pratt said, well it one have helped in this case and maybe wouldn't have helped in columbine, but maybe another case. >> you are absolutely right. and i'm willing to consider those actions and i happy larry pratt is willing to consider having the simple thing, police officers want. you know, law enforcement wants, is a background check system. i think the challenge of the background system, look at the virginia tech shooting, it was because of a faulty background check system. he shouldn't have had a gun, he had problems with mental illness and yet, our faulty system allows it to happen. so, people would be protected today and would be alive today, if we had these kinds of things in place. >> chris: joe biden indicate in addition to the legislative action, that he will suggest to the president, the president can also take executive action, but, not on big things like banning guns or universal background checks. what kinds of things do you believe the president can do on an executive a